the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. 7: 505: . The base forms of the unit marks for this police force were ammended in rural police groups: The Einwohnerwehr was a paramilitary police force formed by The Fraktur typefaces were particularly heavily used during the rise of Nazism, when they were initially represented as true German script. It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set, both signed by the original owner. While lacking a rear horizontal stitch line, the holster body cavity rear panel is secured at the lower edge by the lower belt loop stitching. To see other police manual examples, such as full pagination and other details, click here. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. Password: Register: All Albums: FAQ: Calendar: Mark Forums Read: View First Unread Thread Tools: Display Modes: 06-24-2002, 11:58 PM . What unit markings are on the pistol? the interpretation of German unit marks is outside the scope of the The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. introduced sometime in the late 1920s, and later in the early 1930s, many being police acceptance marked on the shaft. links[9]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Regarding the completely intact magazine safety of 4559t, very few of these police Lugers survived as nearly all of these magazine safety assemblies were deactivated by cutting off the front end of the mechanism under a decree of May 1937. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. The Publisher. The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. Kommando der B. Landespolizei=Command of the B. This information came from a small book I have named The Luger Handbook by Aarron Davis. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. The military character and In addition, the Guide provides guidance on wages and pension issues for the police. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin There is, however, conclusive evidence that the German police did indeed use cut-back Artillery holsters in the early 1920s Weimar era as a search of the Berlin Federal Archives located a picture identified as Bundesarchiv. Command of maintenance/supply section, Wirtschaftsamt links[2]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; Mike, i don't think Joop is doing that? although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the A single example exists of an extremely rare 1943 dated variation, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. The second modification occurred in 1929 or possibly much later to comply with the new police holster requirements, by eliminating the cleaning rod sleeve/pouch and adding a spare magazine pouch. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Pictured are view 1, view 2 and view 3 of the subject Police holster. influence of its police during the violence and disorder of the Weimar It is interesting to note that this is the only published example of a Schutzpolizei Hannover Police holster so marked. It is identical to the 4mm conversion unit part that retains the barrel and may be one and the same. an order of the Prussian Ministry of the Interior dated April 15, 1919, to The exact date or time frame of the second conversion is uncertain, which could have been in the late 1920s or early 1930s. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. Note, these two WaAJL16 holsters are in private collections and are not pictured or discussed in any prior Luger publications, except on Luger forum sites with the last mention of the WaAJL16 stampings being discussed in 2008. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. by Igorak89 07 May 2016, 13:07, Post Pictured is a black dyed 1933 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era (1929-36) Sunburst police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number S.E.I. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: official guide for Prussian police officers. If the blank toggles are related to the Riff contract, they would have been manufactured in or before 1926. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation. All of the blank toggle guns are reported as Police guns. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. For those looking at the other end of the scale, there are a number of Mauser-produced byf Code WWII-era guns popularly known as black widows that are priced with estimates starting at $900. they are found. Per C. Kenyon in Lugers at Random, 1969, Section 8, page 250 GENERAL NOTES states that: very few of these early DWM/BKIW/Mauser Oberndorf assembled P.08s were made and very few of this variation are found with a Sear safety. The bases for these identifications are as follows: a. Box 7184, Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. Chapter 4, p. 64 & Chapter 7, pp. S&W Walther PPK/s Review: Obsolete or Concealed Carry Gem? The missing upper left corner of the left grip is part of the mag safety modification. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 12 ----------------------------------------------------------, Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. Signed & Numbered by both authors. As to whether any police Lugers were used in caliber 7.65 mm is uncertain, however, one example pictured in Luger Variations by Harry Jones 1959, page 291 titled: 1920 POLICE WITH CHAMBER MARKINGS with the claim that during police service the Sear Safety Luger was chambered for the 7.65 m/m cartridge. . - Kommando Nuernberg-Fuerth, berittene Abteilung, gun 5, W.K.S.5. links[1]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. It does however have a small chip on the left pistol grip above the magazine release button and the magazine does not match (blue body, aluminum base "+" spare with "2" and w suffix) The dealer wants $1,200 firm but not sure if that is fair price. Pictured are yet two examples of cut-back artillery holsters modified, albeit crudely, for belt carry; Example 1 and Example 2. Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. aware or familiar with that accessory, which is understandable, as TBLAP The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. Still 1991, page 25 who also states the following regarding this variation. August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. Since the first edition was published in February d. Zs. It was subject to the command of the local Reichswehr 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. Police Lugers: German Police Lugers & their markings, 1918-1958 by Tinker. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: Der amtliche Leitfaden fr preuische Polizeibeamte or The official guide for Prussian police officers. Remnants of the original artillery holster body up-strap attachment are visible; the cover flap keeper strap and the brass stud were removed and the hole was plugged in the cover flap and a belt buckle/strap closure, as stated above was added. These figure on the Mauser inventory listings of 09/30/1930 and 09/30/1930. the center Police officer with a white colored belt. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. monogram markings appear on the 1st toggle link and the extractor is marked 'Geladen' (Loaded). These were finished and delivered by Mauser as stock on hand in the early '30s. But there is a very great difference: Gestapo was German, working in enemy-country. RARE W.W.II GERMAN POLICE LUGER MAUSER HOLSTER - OTTO STUERTZ ALLENSTEIN. issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei Description. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in In actuality, both above statements are correct, as the first statement that a majority of the cut-back LP.08 holsters used by the police are without a police cleaning rod is accurate, however, in cannot be denied that some, at least one, in this instance, was modified (unsuccessfully), specifically to carry the police cleaning rod as evidenced the very rare subject example. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. It has no maker mark nor datePresumably a commercial. If the width of the sight blade sliding base is too wide, it will bind in the muzzle protector collar slot. Collectors state the following regarding the WwMg/41 marking: Opinion on these stamps has differed over the years, but current thought is that the marks may be attributed to the waffenwerk depot at Magdeburg. The press scolded for its frequent use of "Roman characters" under "Jewish influence" and German migrs urged to use only "German script". Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was The S.E.I. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. It is a matter of common courtesy to credit the past authors/collectors that for the last three decades have discussed the 29 DWM Lugers in the s, t and u suffix serial range. Goering kept them under control of the Luftwaffe Air Ministry while all other Werkschutz units were controlled by the Ordnungspolizei. unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. though provides no picture. German: German Mfg. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. This is exactly what I believe happened to this holster. Collectors tend to err toward a variation 2 style ERMA made and marked muzzle protector that is, interestingly a different mechanical design than the above, variation 1 spring tension muzzle protector that attaches to the barrel with a one-step process by sliding, then rotating clockwise, over the barrel sight band/blade assembly, then released in detent, held in place by spring tension. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. (communications training By the 19th century, disputes over the use of Fraktur or Antigua typeface became more heated and lasted until the middle of the 20th century. 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. My question, please forive if its too absurd, is" Why weren't the Riff Contract pistols ordered from the Simson Co.?" The original brown leather holster was probably dyed/swabbed black, at this time, to conform to regulations. state of Bavaria had the small arms issued to its members of the This particular Police bayonet has been described not as Dress bayonet because it has an issue number on both the bayonet and the scabbard and as such its not a dress bayonet, but a duty bayonet and that they wore these on Patrol. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, however, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. The holster front is stamped L.Z.A. German military and police units, one can sometimes derive some He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. In a typical attempt to demonstrate its political autonomy, the federal Abtlg. Buy Very Rare 1941 BYF41 Luger Army- Police P08 Mauser German Pistol 9mm P38: GunBroker is the largest seller of Curios & Relics Collectible Firearms All: 966966512 The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. It is curious that the subject converted LP.08 holster, however, lacks the horizontal stitch line that secures the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner found on all observed artillery LP.08 holsters, original and converted. Get Guns.com offers and news!! The frame tells us that it was an artillery (200mm barrel) and has had the barrel replaced by Simson & Co., the only one authorized to build Lugers after the great war by the treaty of Versailles. A rare DWM-made Model 1906 9mm para made for the Tsarist Russia contract. Even though the unidentified holster has been modified to fit a P.08, it is suggested by collectors that the Railway Protection Police mostly used non-Luger pistols. Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. Post WW2 police manual, dated 1946, is titled The Police Pistols, Dresden, part of the Soviet Occupation Zone, identified of the cover as part of the State of Saxony. It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. Each faded green soft cover Lehrbuch or text book was printed using the early offset printing process consisting of 231 pages of Weimar era Police "Guidelines". Pictured are a few examples: $500. Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, Ulle these re-regulations have been scrutinized when processing the second application and have made extensive changes necessary in some sections. An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size of either of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. Thanks for the help. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. by Igorak89 06 May 2016, 12:14, Post Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. and Band II or Volume II published in 1921 Weimar Germany with the cover title: Das Lehrbuch fr die Polizeischulen or The textbook for the police schools. by the German authorities from the Imperial and Weimar eras, and is an Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. The first toggle link is marked with the Mauser Commercial Banner Code. Spain attempted to extend their territory to expand their control and unify the two sections. WaA107 Hans Rmer Neu-Ulm, Donau 1936. Holster is also marked Bahnschutz RBD Halle (S) 3 Arming Weimar Germany, including Weimar Police Lugers, the Sear Safety, the Magazine Safety, profiles of Weimar Police Lugers, Police holsters, Police Magazines and Police tools & miscellaneous. In HIlfs-POlizei you found only Danes, enemies to their own countrymen. Another vexing issue is Weimar photos that shows groups of NCO Police with a mix of ordinary belt buckles and rectangular box style Weimar Prussian eagles and other Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles, suggesting the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. installed over the barrel sight block blade assembly as a single unit with the German: Foreign Mfg. Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. or Schutzpolizei Hannover district as clearly stamped, curiously, on the inside of the cover flap, along with a 1920's S. H. 133. marking and in Berlin as indicated by the S.B. The first modification was from an artillery holster to a police holster in the early to mid-1920s by cutting back to a P.08, 4-inch barrel length and is the first example not to add a toe plug, but instead by closing out or terminating the holster body toe like a standard P.08 holster. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. Pistols and Holsters. indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and when exposed (1096) NOTE: Photographs taken today Magistrat und Polizeiverwaltung Stadt Reichenbach=Municipality and police administration City Reichenbach, Knigl. It is, therefore, not necessary in some cases, as the above 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example shows, to modify these cut-back Artillery to Police holsters to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the leather flexibility, size and wall thickness varies between manufactures of WW1 Artillery holsters, specifically the cleaning rod pouches/sleeves from stiff, thick and less flexible leather to supple, thinner and more malleable leather, such as used with the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? The tube is in excellent condition with most . Muenchen (Munich procurement office), Wirtschaftsamt Pictured is a black leather 1936 dated Franz Cobau Berlin holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Over all good condition. The results cause us collectors no end of confusion, 78 years later. 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . Im ubrigen hat aber das Bestreben vorgeherrscht, den Iert und Uusbau des Buches mglicht in seiner bisherigen Form zu warhen. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Furthermore, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers that are much smaller than the earlier and larger Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters and of the subject Police holster. Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. Der herausgeber. 1st model prototype. 1. Retains the cleaning rod pouch along the leading edge. Bayern (Bavarian Police Defense Force), Identification of individual units or independent centuria within an In the organization of the police, disorder is of decisive importance for the regulation of the individual types of police, without which the reconstruction of this direction, which is so important for the state life, would have been a problem. (Bavarian) State Police. Regimental Marking [Revised Edition] by Jeff Noll, P.O. Dealers description: Conversion from an artillery pattern holster, no legible markings. Pictured is a brown leather 1934 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst L police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 6710; view 1 and view 2. 46 of these got executed in the years 1946-50 by firing squadrons of the Danish police. The standard 6 barrel is marked Germany on the underside. Example 1. 1918 Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin cut-back artillery to police holster, Luger holstered s/n 5008. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. According to the Standard Catalog of Luger by Davis the meaning of this marking is unknown. In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. Polizei-Verwaltung Halle A/S.=Police Administration Halle A/S. Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. This was the largest of the HZa's and located in Bavaria. empire and the Prussian constitution have already seen some important additions: further laws are expected in the near future. (BSP) (Railway Protection Police) as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap being BAHN SCHUTZ and RBD/Rbd (ReichsBahnDirektionen) ESSEN (RUHR). Faded roman numeral ink stampings on the inside cover flap indicate Imperial army, possibly depot origins. Gr soll seine Umtspslichten gewissenhaft erfullen, foll fachlich in seinen Masnahmen, hslich im Bertehr mit dem Publitum sein, aber auch streng gegen offensichtliche Berstsse einschreiten, andererseits alle Unlasse oder gar Uebergriffe vermeiden, durch welche die Stimmung eines erheblichen Teiles der Bevlterung noch mehr gegen die Polizei beeinslusst wird, als es leider schon der Fall ift. letters and numbers, and the information presented here addresses just In der Organisation der Polizei sind Unordnungen von einschneidender Bedeutung fr die Regelung der einzelnen Polizeiartenergangen, ohne das der Uusbau dieser fr das Staatsleben so wichtigen Finrichtung schon zum Ubschlus gefommen wre. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. Without delay, lets get into the coolest of the bunch: DWM Model 1900 7.65mm Ejercito Mexicano marked commercial pistol made in hopes of gaining contracts with the Mexican military. links[0]='http://www.GermanMilitaria.com'; Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers. Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. 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