They thought his standing up to DeMuth proved that the elderly man was not weak and frail after all, just as John Ramsey had said. We also should have separated John and Patsy and gotten full statements from them that day. Why would the killer care if Patsy found the note before the body. Bill and Janet McReynolds say the only significance of their daughter's abduction to the Ramsey case, regardless of the dates, is that it underscores the compassion they feel for John and Patsy Ramsey. OK. Whatever we wanted, he gave, and Jesses handwriting eliminated him as the author of the ransom note. No suspects were ever found in the case, but both children were found. They filmed him on the 21st and 22nd of December and left before the party on the night of the 23rd. But to this day, the case still remains cold. A. James Kolar, who led the case investigation for the Boulder DAs office for nine months, believes its unlikely the girl was killed by an intruder. Following the Ramseys exoneration thanks to new DNA technology, many hoped the killer would eventually be found. A couple of years later the Ramseys cancelled the Reward for catching JonBenet's killer! I was thinking Bill may have wanted to have a party at JBs house in order to unlock her balcony door. She discusses her father's legacy of goodness while talking about how the JonBenet Gosage took the good news back to the house, but Janet McReynolds told him, Stay out of our lives. The embarrassed cops got into their cars, and the official convoy slunk back down the mountain. A window in the basement was broken and an unidentified footprint was found at the scene. Michael Helgoth was an early suspect who lived nearby the Ramsey house. Two days prior to JonBent's murder, former University of Colorado professor Bill McReynolds dressed up as Santa Claus at the Ramsey household for the third year in a row. Those speculated to be involved range from Santa Claus to Katy Perry. Why not take JBR from the home and to a secluded place where they could do a lot more than just take a few pictures. DNA has since cleared Helgoth of any involvement. .css-4xjy6g{display:block;font-family:RundDisplay,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;font-weight:bold;letter-spacing:0.01em;margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;}@media (any-hover: hover){.css-4xjy6g:hover{color:link-hover;}}@media(max-width: 48rem){.css-4xjy6g{font-size:1.25rem;line-height:1.2;margin-bottom:0.9375rem;margin-top:1.25rem;}}@media(min-width: 40.625rem){.css-4xjy6g{font-size:1.25rem;line-height:1.2;margin-bottom:1.25rem;margin-top:0.9375rem;}}@media(min-width: 64rem){.css-4xjy6g{font-size:1.625rem;line-height:1.2;}}Know a Pisces? The McReynolds vehemently denied any involvement in JonBent's murder and Janet stated that the couple felt "sensitive to the horror" due to what had happened to their own child. For many years, JonBents parents and brother, Burke, who was 9-years-old at the time of her death, were considered the main suspects until they were cleared of suspicion. The note read that if the Ramseys had contacted the police, or told anyone of JonBents disappearance, she would be murdered. The day is December 26, 1996, in Boulder Colorado where the Ramsey family lives. The Ramseys finally went on CNN or some news show with a small poster offering a $100,000 Reward if JonBenet's killer was caught. According to CNN, an original prosecutor on the Ramsey case claimed that Bill had given JonBent a card with the message: "You will receive a special gift after Christmas." Former CU professor Bill McReynolds died of a heart attack. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Hey u/Comicalacimoc, I just posted a podcast interview with Jill McReynolds, but I thought I should put it here too, https://rss.com/podcasts/listencarefully/142330/. We have a tape from him . . it was a tribute to JonBenet or something like that. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, JonBent Ramsey was strangled to death twenty-five years ago and her killer has never been brought to justice, John and Patsy Ramsey were prime suspects for years but were later exonerated when DNA testing had cleared them of any involvement, Investigators could not prove whether or not Patsy wrote the ransom note but she was later cleared by a federal court, Gary Oliva, a sex offender, was found with magazine photos of JonBent in his backpack when police arrested him on drug charges, John Mark Karr falsely confessed to killing JonBent in a 'love game' gone wrong but DNA had cleared him, Many people believe that an intruder killed JonBent but it has never been proven by police, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). A little boy who was a special friend had been murdered several years previously (Thomas). The correspondence took a disturbing turn, with Karr talking about his sexual fascination with JonBent. All in the Ramsey's home in such a short time span? I've asked my wife to mix the star dust JonBent gave me with my ashes. "Statements like that led me to have some sort of suspicion: What was going on between Santa Bill and JonBent? Lifetime will present a TV movie called Who Killed JonBent? JonBent's mother, Patsy, called police initially believing that her daughter was missing after a ransom note was found on the staircase. They parked at a gas station down the road and sent my old partner, Detective Ron Gosage, up to talk because he was the only one with whom McReynolds would speak. It's really blurry even when it's enlarged. It was later revealed that the note was written on stationery found in the familys home. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The outlet reported that on Dec. 26, 1974, the couple's 9-year-old daughter had been kidnapped along with her friend and she witnessed the sexual abuse of her friend during the trauma. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Santa was apparently coming to visit JB. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. Her friend was sexually assaulted and Jill escaped unharmed. In early 1990s the Ramseys spent $700,000 just to build the third story master suite onto their mansion! However, physical evidence suggested that those details were part of a set-up. This seems really strange and coincidental. Why write a ransom note? I just wanted to add something that borders on ridiculous and that's probably being generous. A federal court ruled that it was unlikely that Patsy wrote the note and cited six certified handwriting experts. Over the years, we gained knowledge of how the case was mishandled and the false stories that were leaked to the public etc so we changed our minds. JBR could just have been bragging. She was a member of First Baptist Bluegrass. OK. In his book Presumed Guilty: An Investigation Into the JonBent Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography, journalist Stephen Singular argues that the police were so focused on pinning the murder to the Ramseysthat they neglected to consider the possibility that JonBent was abducted for child pornography. Following the Ramseys exoneration thanks to new DNA technology, many hoped the killer would eventually be found. -Why, when the money was just sitting in the bank anyway?? And if there were other reasons for them to worry about it, then it's far more logical to think that Burke indeed killed JonBenet. They realize that someone is playing a sick game with them. He went through the Ramsey's mail and saw Johns pay-stubs. How closely was Bill investigated? Karr had reached out to University of Colorado Boulder professor, Michael Tracey through email. Which means you constructed this primarily with your own imagination. If they were so anxious about it anyway, why not just remove the pineapple and avoid saying that Burke had a snack with her & getting the police to actually look for their daughter's killer? His DNA under JonBenets fingernails is the only trace of him left behind. The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. * Bill McReynolds daughter Jill, was kidnapped on December 26, 1974 with a friend. But then when you get to handwriting on the note, both parents' fibers on the body, the evidence of previous abuse, the families behavior, the random fact of the late night pineapple, the way she was redressed, the Barbie nightgown, all the weird little details, it all falls apart. There's a reason people who don't really know the details of this case will 90% of the time say they think the parents are guilty of 'something'. One of America's most famous unsolved cases is undoubtedly the murder of JonBent Ramsey in Boulder, Colorado and CBS has opened its own investigation with the two-part special The Case Of: JonBent Ramsey. When did that happen? Another mother also stated to BPD investigators that JonBent had told a playmate about a Secret Santa. were officially cleared of any involvement in the murder, JonBenet Ramsey's murder, including Bill McReynolds, the man hired by Patsy to play Santa Claus at the Ramsey family's Christmas parties, McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned, police sources never considered he or Janet "serious" suspects. We're going to go up behind the cabin here and have it blow away in the wind." What were they planning to do with the body? The Dynamic Duo of DeMuth and his new investigator, Dan Schuller, pulled the trigger when they saw McReynolds loading his pickup truck at a storage locker. We also should have separated John and Patsy and gotten full statements from them that day. on July 8, 2020, Longmont Police Department records on the December 26, 1974 kidnapping of Jill McReynolds (daughter of JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect "Santa" Bill McReynolds) and her friend by an unidentified pedophile, There are no reviews yet. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. The Ramseys refused to cooperate with police. Lengthy interview? Thus the kidnapping charge. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On what grounds did Steve Thomas and the BPD dismiss them? It was nearly 20 years ago when the mysterious JonBent Ramsey murder case shocked, and mortified people around the world. This "theory" Is fucking stupid. He played Santa at the Ramseys in 94, 95 and 96. Many sleuths believe that Helgoth had heard he was a suspect in the case, with a popular theory believing that it was his footprint at the crime scene. (BPD Report #1-568. He didnt remember, it was so long ago, about twenty-five years. In August 2006, a 41 year old elementary school teacher falsely confessed to the murder of JonBenet but investigations proved him to have no connection with the case. Heres How to Shop for Them. I thought the DNA was unrelated to the murders tho? Mattie Moore McReynolds Knoxville - Mattie Moore McReynolds, age 103, long time resident of the Bluegrass Community, passed away October 18, 2021. I lived through the he saga as an adult and I know several people that believe the Intruder theory. Since it was Christmas, the department was short-staffed and was not prepared for the scene they were faced with at the Ramsey House. She discusses her father's legacy of goodness while talking about how the JonBenet "This was her speculation based on what she claimed she went through as a child. I never saw her that way, said Irene Wills, whose daughter Lucinda was John Ramseys first wife. The killer resembled JonBenet's brother John Andrew. a little more than two decades earlier, in 1974, spookily or maybe synchronistically, on the exact same day jonbenet was found dead in her basement decades later, december (Thomas). The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. I recall reading that sparkly Christmas fragments were found in JBR's hair at the time of her death. Karr eventually came out as a transgender woman in 2010. McReynolds is questioned and ruled out, he didn't commit the actual killing so his DNA is not a match. We needed to look back at the family, the people who were in the home that night to determine what motive, what opportunity, what could have caused this situation to occur and eventually be reported to police on the morning of December 26, he said. While there, CNN reports that he allegedly gave JonBent a card that read, "You will receive a special gift after Christmas.". According to the Daily Camera, the woman provided authorities with a list of "specific names of individuals who [were] witnesses in the killing of JonBent as well as ongoing sexual and physical [abusers] of other children.". The Ramseys protested their innocence for years, appearing on national television to tell their story. He had been living in the area on and off and when police allegedly found a magazine with pictures of the girl in his backpack. The killer lay in weight until the Ramsey's came home. Blood sample? Police investigated a wide variety of individuals in relation to JonBenet Ramsey's murder, including Bill McReynolds, though McReynolds (who died in 2002) also maintained his innocence and was cleared of any involvement in her death. You have her pad and a wrote it with her pen and can match her handwriting. McReynolds planned the murder in advance and he told JonBenet that Santa would visit her after Christmas to get her to go downstairs that night and wait for him. Can I ask you Ivy, did you live through the whole JonBenet murder saga as an adult while it was unfolding? Here's an interesting exercise, one that might help bring Is it possible a parent would cover for their spouse Something Else About the Ransom Note Points to Ramsey Guilt, Press J to jump to the feed. Patsy Ramsey places a 911 call to the Boulder Police Department explaining that her daughter, JonBenet, is not in her room and that a ransom note was left behind. acting incredibly suspiciously around the time of the murder, I wonder what it would be like to crack a human skull, You will receive a special gift after Christmas, a fictionalized account of the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana, it's also not the first time that a murder has been blamed on an owl, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. They then staged the kidnapping and murder scene together to cover the whole thing up. And while living in Nederland, near Boulder, he had some other scrapes with the law. He kept saying it was only a matter of time before they are arrested. My thoughts on The Amy Attack, The "Trinity" assault, the Ramsey experts and insane overconfidence, Pop Mystic - Search TV Show and Movie Scripts. She discusses her father's legacy of goodness while talking about how the JonBenet case affected her family and her father's well being. About a month out from the start of the 2021 NASCAR season, Camping World Truck Series driver Jordan Anderson has some big news. Karr eventually came out as a transgender woman in 2010. She was abused, tortured, andfinally killed. (It's also speculated that Patsy lashed out after finding that JonBenet had wet the bed.) Both children were then released. The South Carolina native got engaged over the weekend to Kendall McReynolds, daughter of two-time Daytona 500 winning-crew chief and NASCAR on FOX analyst Larry McReynolds. Police chief Mark Beckner has also said that the crime scene wasnt properly sealed off after police arrived. An Associated Press report from March 1997 stated that McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned less than six weeks after the murder. They tell him to go back to bed and agree to deny he was ever up. He has been cleared and my humble opinion is that he was a fall guy. That's where the $118,000 demand comes from. When I die, I'm going to be cremated. This was in Kolar's book. An Associated Press report from March 1997 stated that McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned less than six weeks after the murder. But they also know that he couldn't have written the note and they know that neither one of them wrote it or did anything wrong because they were together the entire time. McReynolds played Santa Claus at a Christmas party at the Ramsey house a few nights before JonBent was killed. Burke is woken up and questioned. Another eerie-sounding connection theory, is that Janet McReynolds had allegedly written a play about a young girl who had molested, tortured and killed in a basement in 1976. When Bill died in 2002, The Daily Camera emphasized that police sources never considered he or Janet "serious" suspects. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. So you think McReynolds is the gatekeeper? Other suspects included neighbor Bill McReynolds, a local Santa Claus who visited the Ramseys a few days before the girls death. Another was Michael Helgoth, an electrician who worked at a nearby auto salvage yard. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. Stop it already". The Santa Claus figure in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case died over the weekend from a heart attack. (BPD Report #1-568. Police chief Mark Beckner has also said that the crime scene wasnt properly sealed off after police arrived. McReynolds won a Western States Art Foundation regional prize and a $7,500 grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, but it was never published and no copy has been released to the media since. And they didn't just lie that morning. He knew they were at the party and he knew how to get into the Ramsey's home because McReynolds told him. The amount demanded was identical to Johns Christmas bonus the year before, which suggested that whoever had that information might have been involved in the crime. Search the history of over 778 billion In March 1997, Bill McReynolds told The Chicago Tribune, "In my heart, I know there's no connection. The Ramseys protested their innocence for years, appearing on national television to tell their story. Former Kidnapping charge was a botched $113 gas station robbery in Arizona, where he forced clerk to move from Point A to Point B, thus the kidnapping charge (ST Pg 114, DOI pg167), He had come home from the Christmas party at his parents home, had a drink of scotch, swallowed some powerful prescription drugs he took for depression, and gone to bed alone, not awakening until late the next morning. Helgothand his accomplices committed the crime. The story of the girls brutal murder is a hot topic of discussion as her killer was never brought to justice. It wasnt until 2008 when the Boulder County District Attorneys office ruled that the Ramseys were no longer considered suspects thanks to newly developed DNA sampling and testing techniques. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. 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